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« on: January 21, 2010, 04:49:18 am »

I couldn't keep this to myself.

There's this book trilogy-- The Bronze Horseman, The Bridge to Holy Cross, and The Summer Garden by Paullina Simons. I've just finished the second, and so far this series is probably one of the best things I ever read. But that's beside the point.

The amount of flail and squee and ECR that went on while I read this book was pretty much equal to Shadow Unit. Apart from that they're very different: historical fiction (primarily about WWII Russia), no scifi/fantasy elements, very different writing style, and much more romance.

If you can find at least the first book, which I'm pretty sure is in Barnes and Noble since they're being republished, get it. It is such an amazingly good series. The second book shot my sleeping schedule to hell, which is why I'm typing this post at almost 5 in the morning.

I'd say I highly recommend it to everyone ever, but the truth is it isn't for everyone. I don't want to say it's a ~girly~ book, but...certain sections seem to tend more toward a female audience.


Like I said, this has very little to do with SU or anything we normally talk about here, but I couldn't keep this to myself. Being the readers that you are, I thought there's always a chance someone's either read it, heard of it, and hopefully willing to pick it up and ECR with me.
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 06:12:32 am »

We always believe in talking about good books.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2010, 06:53:51 am »

*is intrigued*

Generally I wait for a book/series/author to come to my attention a few* times before going hunting for it, but with such themes as Great Patriotic War, ECR-inducing and some romance, I may have to pay more attention to this. Thanks for the heads-up.  Grin

(*) For certain, highly variable values of 'a few'.  Cheesy
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Snacking, folks, snacking. I don't know where you got any other ideas, and frankly I'm not sure I want to know =)
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2010, 05:44:40 pm »

So, after finding it a bit dangerous to ask questions, I went straight to Google to discover what ECR means.  Narrowing the search term with nerd and fandom vocabulary didn't seem to help much, although I did find 76 useless definitions here: http://www.all-acronyms.com/ECR.

Excited Crazed Ranting?
Extra Crazy Rambling?
Excessive Cognitive Rumination?

And THEN it occurred to me to search "ECR Shadow Unit".

"Emotionally Complex Response"

Hooray!
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2010, 06:56:13 pm »

In the interests of possibly making it easier for you next time, there exists a Shadow Unit Wiki.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2010, 07:15:02 pm »

In the interests of possibly making it easier for you next time, there exists a Shadow Unit Wiki.

RIGHT.  Cool.  Thanks.  *feels silly*
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2010, 07:19:17 pm »

It wasn't meant to make you feel silly, just meant as a piece of information which you did not have and had no reason to suspect existed.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2010, 10:06:00 pm »

Bunny-- Sooo much ECR. You wouldn't believe. This book is literally emotionally exhausting, but soo worth it. It's also great, just from a historical perspective because you learn a lot about WWII from the Russian point of view, especially the starving-out of Leningrad.

Foxipher-- That's okay, I was a newbie once too and had no idea what ECR was for a long while. Among other things Smiley no worries.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 10:37:34 pm »

It never occurred to me to use the wiki thing... but I did think of searching ECR right here on the message board!  Worked, too.  I have a lot of fun when I have time to go reading threads from two years ago (I just love technology these days!)
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2010, 10:51:11 pm »

I have a lot of fun when I have time to go reading threads from two years ago (I just love technology these days!)

Ha!

I did a lot of that back when I first started reading SU.  And yes, it was much fun.

(although after a while, I did start to feel more like a stalker than a lurker)
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2010, 06:09:56 pm »

That's my philosophy-- just admit everything up front, and no one can catch you out.  I discovered that feeling silly is much more pleasant than feeling anxiety about being discovered!  Hee Hee.  I can't be stalking or lurking if I'm talking about... bummer, no rhyme for lurking.  Oh, well!
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2010, 07:39:46 am »

With further thoughts on books that inspire ECR, I'm currently roughly halfway through Regenesis, C.J. Cherryh's sequel to Cyteen. It's been years since I read Cyteen last, but I'm undecided if this is good, bad, or just is, with regards to the difference it makes to reading through the new book. In fact, I'm thinking that I just finished watching season one of Fringe* is more relevant to my reactions to Regenesis.

Anyone else read this yet, or planning to?

(*) And there's a whole different set of ECR purely for Fringe, let alone the interaction of the two...
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Snacking, folks, snacking. I don't know where you got any other ideas, and frankly I'm not sure I want to know =)
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 10:02:43 am »

I read Regenesis pretty much as soon as it came out.

I enjoyed it, but it didn't hold a candle to Cyteen, for me. Then again, I felt like if Cyteen was a movie, Regenesis was the beginning of the television adaptation - it's feels like an episode of a story, not a complete story. And I'll certainly pick up the next one.

(Actually, I've been wanting to find someone I discuss the science in Regenesis with - her incorporation of nanotech was interesting, though unprecedented in terms of the first book, and she didn't really explore the area where genetic engineering and nanotech overlap... though perhaps I'm more likely to quibble about that because protein engineering is an area of great interest to me. And then there's the bit about the rejuv drugs coming from the platytheres... Okay, that's interesting, and I don't believe anything in the first book contradicts it, and it does bring in some interesting ecological considerations, but I found it hard to buy on a few fronts.

And then there's Ari, who felt more like an archtype and less like a character in this book. Again, this could all be remedied in another.)
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2010, 10:35:08 pm »

Not so much ECR, but certainly Of Interest:


I have this charming little used bookstore I go to that is currently inhabiting a very run-down barn-looking-thing (I affectionately call it Sketchy Bookstore, because it really is very frightening from the outside). This weekend I found something in it that I thought the PTB, if not most Deltas, would find amusing/awesome.

Buried in the itty bitty SF/F section, was an itty bitty novel. Yellowed, dusty, about 200 pages. Reader, it was a The Man from U.N.C.L.E. novel. Issue #7: The Radioactive Camel Affair. Published 1966.

It was $1.50. I couldn't resist.
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2010, 10:47:01 pm »

That's the not very good one with the frightening accurate depiction of waterboarding.

...yeah, I scare me.
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