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« Reply #75 on: May 13, 2008, 12:01:19 pm »

Also, I thought "going to see the elephant" usually referred to warzones

My reaction to "going to see the elephant" is the notion of there being an object or idea that's really large but that everyone is trying like hell to ignore.

Here's a wiki on it:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_in_the_room 

At the time, I thought it was simply Sol using obscure idioms from his journalistic background and the elephant was that a case existed and that he and Chaz weren't talking about it.  But if you then look at the gamma's myth, it has this wonderful echo.  The gamma is an elephant in his own mind.

Not that I saw this on the first read through, but our authors are wonderful and leave us little presents for the second pass through.

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« Reply #76 on: May 13, 2008, 01:19:55 pm »

Oh, hah! Thank you. I'd forgotten that Touching Evil should be on the list of my influences for this show.

Be sure to include "Wire in the Blood" as well. Some of Dr. Hill's accidental ramblings would be really, really creepy if Frost said them.

Hee. And Robson Green played both DI Dave Creegan and Dr. Tony Hill, too. Now that iTunes has BBC America, I wish they'd bring over British cop/crime shows, like Touching Evil, Wire in the Blood, or Life on Mars. (My favorite British cop show is Midsomer Murders. Favorite episode: "Judgment Day", which features Orlando Bloom being stabbed with a pitchfork.  Grin )

Oh, and I wish they had episodes of Hyde. Now there's a gamma for you.
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« Reply #77 on: May 13, 2008, 01:24:35 pm »

My only possible quibble would be the near-complete dearth of Hafs in this episode, but I had to go looking for that one.

I missed her, too.  I know we had a Hafidha-centric episode already but I'm looking forward to more and I was disappointed at how little she appeared here.  I would say she's my favorite but I have the urge to say that about ALL the characters, depending on who I'm talking about.  The sign of a good ensemble show!

Loved the insight into Chaz's inner workings that we got, however.  And the creepiness of knowing the UNSUB had been there all along...brrrr.  It was nice to see the team have fun together at the Field (Yay!  The Field!  //ex SD-girl squee), to see Sol flirt, and also to see Lau try to puzzle out the relationship between Chaz and Daphne.

Also, went to bed after reading the ep (very late at night) and definitely had a Shadow Unit dream.  Writers, you have succeeded in setting up shop in my subconscious.  And that's a compliment.

I was wondering where they were in SD County to have to drive 45 minutes from Lindbergh, though.  I guess it is the SDPD Northwestern Division, but that would have to be way up in Rancho Santa Fe, at least.  Not quite San Diego proper anymore.
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« Reply #78 on: May 13, 2008, 01:26:58 pm »

You have to figure in time to get through the airport and out of the parking garage, don't forget. *g*
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« Reply #79 on: May 13, 2008, 01:51:24 pm »

You have to figure in time to get through the airport and out of the parking garage, don't forget. *g*

No garages at Lindbergh, oddly.  All open lots.  As far as I know, the SDPD's jurisdiction comprehends the entire sprawling metropolitan area, though, so the drive times end up being okay.  And you definitely got the response time stuff right--SDPD is lamentably understaffed and overworked.  (I have a friend who works with the UCSD division, so I hear about a lot of interoffice drama, and will say that the Academy washout turned crazy dispatcher with a grudge premise is totally realistic...but anyway.)  It was fun to see my old stomping grounds in this episode, for sure.
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« Reply #80 on: May 13, 2008, 01:54:24 pm »

...  I wanted to write something that was triggery and hard for the team  ...

Is it just me or was anyone else totally expecting Chaz to bust out like Hafs did because he was trying so hard?
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« Reply #81 on: May 13, 2008, 02:01:48 pm »

No garages at Lindbergh, oddly.  All open lots. 

See, that's the sort of thing that always gets you. It's the stuff you don't even think to look up. I'm not sure I've ever seen an airport without a parking garage, even some of the little tiny regional ones I've flown into. (McCarran, in Las Vegas, was peculiarly screwed post 9-11, when you couldn't park within a certain distance of the terminals. Because it's built inside its own parking structure, you see.)

I knew the drive time was okay, because I checked it--with some wiggle room added for getting to the car. *g* (And I've spent some time in San Diego.) That sort of thing, you know you have to look up.

(Chaz points out helpfully that he could have made the drive in under thirty...)

Is it just me or was anyone else totally expecting Chaz to bust out like Hafs did because he was trying so hard?

Oh, if only it were that easy.... well, okay. If only it were that easy for everyone.
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« Reply #82 on: May 13, 2008, 02:04:33 pm »

Is it just me or was anyone else totally expecting Chaz to bust out like Hafs did because he was trying so hard?

Oh, if only it were that easy.... well, okay. If only it were that easy for everyone.

Hehe.  It was either that or one of his eyeballs was going to pop.
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« Reply #83 on: May 13, 2008, 02:11:52 pm »

Is it just me or was anyone else totally expecting Chaz to bust out like Hafs did because he was trying so hard?

Oh, if only it were that easy.... well, okay. If only it were that easy for everyone.

Hehe.  It was either that or one of his eyeballs was going to pop.

Thematically appropriate!
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« Reply #84 on: May 13, 2008, 02:17:00 pm »

I knew the drive time was okay, because I checked it--with some wiggle room added for getting to the car. *g* (And I've spent some time in San Diego.) That sort of thing, you know you have to look up.

(Chaz points out helpfully that he could have made the drive in under thirty...)

You do have to hike over the Skyway and halfway across the lot much of the time, so I'll give you the wiggle room!  Lindbergh is a weird airport...old facilities, bad location, no room to expand, extremely short runway with a dangerous approach right over the roofs of downtown.  The city's trying to build a new one somewhere, but of course, no one wants it.

Heh.  Chaz would be right at home driving in Southern California, where the best kind of defensive driving is a good offense (Northern Cali requires a different driving style altogether) and where I learned how to drive, so my estimates may also be a bit...off.
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« Reply #85 on: May 13, 2008, 02:29:29 pm »

For the sake of future research, Tucson International has only parking lot, no parking structure. *g*

Hyde is a totally bitchin' series. Loved it.
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« Reply #86 on: May 13, 2008, 02:38:36 pm »

Is it just me or was anyone else totally expecting Chaz to bust out like Hafs did because he was trying so hard?

Oh, if only it were that easy.... well, okay. If only it were that easy for everyone.

Hehe.  It was either that or one of his eyeballs was going to pop.

Thematically appropriate!

... I just realize that yes, yes it is!  (I blame the ... aw hell, I've got no one to blame.  I'm just slow.)
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« Reply #87 on: May 13, 2008, 03:47:41 pm »

Is it just me or was anyone else totally expecting Chaz to bust out like Hafs did because he was trying so hard?

Oh, if only it were that easy.... well, okay. If only it were that easy for everyone.

Hehe.  It was either that or one of his eyeballs was going to pop.

Thematically appropriate!

... I just realize that yes, yes it is!  (I blame the ... aw hell, I've got no one to blame.  I'm just slow.)

Of all the animals that he's been labeled as and/or would like to be labeled as (see his LJ for the anteater thread, currently ongoing), I don't think Chihuahua or Pekinese really fit. Long, lanky dogs don't normally pop their own eyes out. Something about having an appropriate volume of sinus cavities, I think....
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« Reply #88 on: May 13, 2008, 04:51:26 pm »

Jessi's been mentioned off and on in the livejournals, too, if you want to know a bit more about her.

Oh noes! There goes my afternoon, as I start to search for this.
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« Reply #89 on: May 13, 2008, 04:56:26 pm »

For the sake of future research, Tucson International has only parking lot, no parking structure. *g*

Hyde is a totally bitchin' series. Loved it.

If only I had a way to see it that didn't involve, um, websites of dubious legality. That first time Hyde comes out . . .  Shocked

The possibility of not being alone in my own head (or my own body) really creeps me out. I really sympathized with Chaz and the team's reaction to the realization that the UNSUB in this episode had gotten inside their heads to the point where not only were they not noticing him, they couldn't even think about the fact that they were not noticing him.
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