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« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2008, 10:18:30 pm »

Ok, Chaz and Amy need to get it on.  Who's with me?
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« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2008, 10:24:04 pm »

Nah... he's dependent on her, she inflicts pain, ECR to the ick.
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« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2008, 10:25:04 pm »

But, but, that would make it all complicated and stuff!

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« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2008, 10:35:10 pm »

But, but, that would make it all complicated and stuff!


First, get him better.

THEN get him laid. It'll still be crunchy complicated. I promise!

ETA: Not by/with Amy, if wasn't clear.
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« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2008, 01:00:07 am »

While it is an appealing thought, I hope not- I like Amy, and if her professional ethics lapsed that much, I wouldn't anymore.
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« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2008, 03:03:23 am »

That was a good one.  My back and I are cringing in sympathy, and I only ever had RSI to deal with...
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« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2008, 06:46:49 am »

Besides the professional and psychological issues, she's married.

And fifteen years older than he is.

...okay, Chaz wouldn't consider the second part a problem.
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« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2008, 09:30:49 am »

Ok, Chaz and Amy need to get it on.  Who's with me?

Not I. At least not until well after their professional therapist/patient relationship is over.

A few years back, as a member of the local health club, I signed up for a massage. I was stunned to find out that the paperwork included a statement that sexual services were most definitely not included. When I asked the masseuse, she told me that there was, in fact, a significant subset of their clientele that seemed to think "massage" implied "massage parlor"/whorehouse; putting that disclaimer in the paperwork drastically cut down on that sort of harassment.
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« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2008, 10:41:29 am »

Yeah, I'm also part of the "No, they shouldn't" crowd.

I like giving massages to my friends. I'm good at it. It's not usually sexual though (I mean, other than when it's with someone I'm already sleeping with, and then, hey, bonus), and in fact, in a really good massage setting, I'm viewing them as a set of problems to be solved, and it's detached enough that it's definitely not sexual. It's still intimate, but I'm doing something that is personal enough that it seems disrespectful to make it sexual.

I don't know if I can make that make any sense. Let me think about that again for a second...

I'm taking care of this other person. They are under my protection when I'm giving them a massage. If I'm going after a bad knot, I need to be able to listen to them, concentrate on the specific area I'm trying to ease, listen to hear if the person's breathing and response indicate this is good or too painful or what.  They need to know that they are safe with me. They need to be relaxed enough for that relaxation to help me find the tense areas. Overstepping that boundary into sex just seems wrong.

I don't think Chaz is anywhere near the stage where that step would be anything other than a mistake, and I think it's a mistake to interpret Amy's professional care for other  than it is.

(I wrote "more" than it it is, first, but... hell, I've given massages that felt more intimate than some of the sex I've had, but it's still a different dynamic.)
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« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2008, 11:42:46 am »

Oh, I wasn't trying to suggest that it would be a Good Idea.  Not in the least.  Massage therapy should definitely not be confused with sex.  Evar.  But since when has good fiction come out of people making sensible, professionally and ethically balanced decisions?
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« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2008, 04:18:37 pm »

Ok, Chaz and Amy need to get it on.  Who's with me?

Not I. At least not until well after their professional therapist/patient relationship is over.

A few years back, as a member of the local health club, I signed up for a massage. I was stunned to find out that the paperwork included a statement that sexual services were most definitely not included. When I asked the masseuse, she told me that there was, in fact, a significant subset of their clientele that seemed to think "massage" implied "massage parlor"/whorehouse; putting that disclaimer in the paperwork drastically cut down on that sort of harassment.

Not masseuse. Massage Therapist. I got learned by a friend of mine who is a therapist. Masseuse has taken on such a negative implication that using it almost implies happy endings....
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« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2008, 05:36:58 pm »

My Boy uses Massage Therapist or massuer. And always prefaces with 'Shiatsu.'

It's less of an issue with a grey-bearded martial artist type than a cute blonde but even he would bristle at the m-word.
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« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2008, 07:56:54 pm »

Masseur is the masculine form, masseuse is the feminine.  I image that he would bristle even if it hadn't gathered negative connotations.
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« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2008, 08:03:18 pm »

Masseur is the masculine form, masseuse is the feminine.  I image that he would bristle even if it hadn't gathered negative connotations.

He just rolls his eyes if it's misused to refer to him.

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« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2008, 08:03:53 pm »

A few years back, as a member of the local health club, I signed up for a massage. I was stunned to find out that the paperwork included a statement that sexual services were most definitely not included. When I asked the masseuse, she told me that there was, in fact, a significant subset of their clientele that seemed to think "massage" implied "massage parlor"/whorehouse; putting that disclaimer in the paperwork drastically cut down on that sort of harassment.
Not masseuse. Massage Therapist. I got learned by a friend of mine who is a therapist. Masseuse has taken on such a negative implication that using it almost implies happy endings....

I believe she identified herself as a masseuse - but this was many, many moons ago, and I may well be misremembering.

On the other hand, a good massage done purely for relaxation purposes can leave one feeling very good indeed. That qualifies as a happy ending, despite the lack of sexual stimulation.
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