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Author Topic: 2x08, "Not Alone" [Season finale]  (Read 35055 times)
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« Reply #360 on: November 01, 2009, 10:28:50 pm »

There's always an ECR. Smiley
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« Reply #361 on: November 02, 2009, 01:37:00 am »

I'm betting that's she's right and paranoid. Because that's our PTB for you.
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« Reply #362 on: November 02, 2009, 03:40:18 am »

Had a very wild theory sprout in my mind last night. It ran as follows:
a) Hafs has been running the internet straight through her brain, right?
b) On the internet, everything is deliberate; you can't post stuff by accident.
c) So, is Hafs confusing the internet -though which she filters reality more and more over season 2- with reality?

This explains very well her new conspiracy theory mindset, but I'm wary of over-simplifying on the basis that I lack all the data the PTB have at their disposal.

plus, d) networks on the internet could be considered conspiracies, as they are all interconnected: no coincidences as to where the links go, are there?

I suspect accessing the internet from the inside of her head has been undermining Hafs' mental health for some time now.

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« Reply #363 on: November 02, 2009, 10:21:39 am »

That's...

a disturbingly plausible theory... *shudder*
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« Reply #364 on: November 02, 2009, 04:27:41 pm »

That's...

a disturbingly plausible theory... *shudder*

I second that....hadn't thought about it as Hafs filtering the internet through her brain before, but put that way....yikes. Big yikes.
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« Reply #365 on: November 03, 2009, 08:38:57 am »

It occurs to me that while I feel pretty strongly that Hafs is in need of rescuing if anyone is, that's probably not what it looks like to her. And she likely still wants to keep tabs on her baby brother, for both practical and personal reasons. And maybe, maybe helping him would be the thing that would get her to risk exposing herself, were his situation dire enough.
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« Reply #366 on: November 03, 2009, 09:44:59 am »

I went to sleep last night thinking about this... granted, we've got a lot of time to (scour for clues) speculate... **never looked forward to February before!!!**  but there is an awful lot of season 3 before "wireless girl," and then-- then, my friends, it sounds like she's a CASE. Alarm, alarm.
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« Reply #367 on: November 03, 2009, 02:28:22 pm »

It occurs to me that while I feel pretty strongly that Hafs is in need of rescuing if anyone is, that's probably not what it looks like to her. And she likely still wants to keep tabs on her baby brother, for both practical and personal reasons. And maybe, maybe helping him would be the thing that would get her to risk exposing herself, were his situation dire enough.

I'm not terribly happy with the idea of Chaz being put directly in dire harm's way (yet again), for the sake of Hafs. Maybe it's because my love of Chaz outweighs my love of Hafs, but I think that boy has been through enough lately. I think miminnehaha's view of Hafs becoming a Gamma, or a baddie in some way, is more plausible and more interesting. It'd certainly be a shocking growth opportunity for the rest of the team.
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« Reply #368 on: November 03, 2009, 09:45:15 pm »

I think miminnehaha's view of Hafs becoming a Gamma, or a baddie in some way, is more plausible and more interesting.

My problem with Hafs as Gamma is that she really went off the rails in the opposite direction. No descent into evil, just discarding the rules in favour of becoming a vigilante: "I have become death, the destroyer of gammas". Harking back to our favourite comic book analogies she's become Elektra, not the Dark Phoenix.
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« Reply #369 on: November 03, 2009, 09:51:40 pm »

Some would say that becoming a vigilante is descending into evil.
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« Reply #370 on: November 03, 2009, 09:59:06 pm »

And what if she starts killing betas.  Or people she thinks might become gammas because they're cracked. 

Haf's judgment is impaired, after all
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« Reply #371 on: November 03, 2009, 11:10:53 pm »

OMG, she's become

OTHAR TRYGGVASSEN
Gentleman Adventurer!
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« Reply #372 on: November 03, 2009, 11:16:48 pm »

Some would say that becoming a vigilante is descending into evil.

I'd draw the distinction of "descent into darkness" rather than "descent into evil". I'm not saying that the results aren't evil, but the intent is different and offers a greater pathway for redemption.

The main point I'm trying to make is really one of intent. Whatever is going on, Hafs seems to have hardened her opposition to Gammas, moving her to their polar opposite rather than towards them: "She tried to imagine how she'd failed in her calling to the extent that she had let it happen."
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« Reply #373 on: November 03, 2009, 11:19:43 pm »

OMG, she's become

OTHAR TRYGGVASSEN
Gentleman Adventurer!

Damn, I laughed so hard I almost choked.

That's a cruel, cruel thing to say about Hafs - she's got much better fashion sense than Othar.
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« Reply #374 on: November 03, 2009, 11:22:12 pm »

OMG, she's become

OTHAR TRYGGVASSEN
Gentleman Adventurer!

::wince::

Well, if that's the case, at least we know she can't get killed off.
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