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« Reply #180 on: June 11, 2009, 04:25:09 pm » |
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Precisely. It's like defining "simile" as "Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?" or something.
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« Reply #181 on: June 11, 2009, 04:29:12 pm » |
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Well, actually, that's backwards. The common usage developed from the more specific one.
Which, you have to admit, is pretty squicky.
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« Reply #182 on: June 11, 2009, 04:30:48 pm » |
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Ah, but tylik tells us her group was using it before the cited appearance on Usenet. So not necessarily. That could be a backformation.
That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.
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« Reply #183 on: June 11, 2009, 04:37:35 pm » |
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hmmm.... curiosity may have killed the cat;but! Only the curious have, if they live, a tale
worth telling at all.  (also, the Usenet origin story cannot possibly work, as I'm pretty sure I remember using it as a kid.) |
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« Reply #184 on: June 11, 2009, 04:47:37 pm » |
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Well, actually, that's backwards. The common usage developed from the more specific one.
We know. That's why MG rejected this reality, substituting her own, and I joined her there. |
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« Reply #185 on: June 11, 2009, 05:12:52 pm » |
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Ah, but tylik tells us her group was using it before the cited appearance on Usenet. So not necessarily. That could be a backformation.
The oft cited origin of the word on alt.tasteless (or sometimes one of the bdsm related groups) is highly unlikely to be correct - it was in parlance in geek circles at least by early 1993, and probably earlier than that... and in circles with a lot of representation on usenet forums back in the day. Which makes me rather suspect back formation. However I can't rule out that the given origin story is essentially correct, but just happened at an earlier time and place. It seems a little dubious to me in terms of tone, but not inconceivable. |
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« Reply #186 on: June 11, 2009, 05:29:18 pm » |
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However I can't rule out that the given origin story is essentially correct, but just happened at an earlier time and place. It seems a little dubious to me in terms of tone, but not inconceivable.
I dunno. Maybe I just spend too much time with little kids and/or reading kid's books, but it sounds to me like one of those rhyming-not-quite-words that kids and kid's authors come up with all the time. It's just too perfect in terms of sound and tone for it not to refer to playing with icky squishy squicky mud-pies/boogers/etc. |
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« Reply #187 on: June 11, 2009, 05:47:36 pm » |
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Wow. That's thread drift I wasn't expecting.
Anyway, back to the WTF therapist concept. Sol might find himself in the role of smart, stubborn therapist to the team. My personal thought, though, is that - if the PTB actually go that route - the likely candidates are either Kay Baylor (who already demonstrated her skill with Danny) or the Mysterious Doctor Allison (about whom we know nothing save the name).
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« Reply #188 on: June 11, 2009, 07:21:01 pm » |
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Thank you. I think. Ew. Got it now. I'll stick with my definition.
Ditto. (ewwww.) |
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« Reply #189 on: June 12, 2009, 01:28:39 am » |
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Wow. That's thread drift I wasn't expecting.
Anyway, back to the WTF therapist concept. Sol might find himself in the role of smart, stubborn therapist to the team. My personal thought, though, is that - if the PTB actually go that route - the likely candidates are either Kay Baylor (who already demonstrated her skill with Danny) or the Mysterious Doctor Allison (about whom we know nothing save the name).
Duke has quite a head start though, given he's already gotten past most of the team's defences, and has a good handle on how each of them think/avoid unwanted topics. I think one of the others might be the official team therapist, should there be one, but they'll have to lean on Duke pretty hard most likely. Whether they know/realise this or not. |
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*watches his life get devoured like Dread Cthulhu snacking on a yacht*
Snacking, folks, snacking. I don't know where you got any other ideas, and frankly I'm not sure I want to know =)
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« Reply #190 on: June 12, 2009, 07:38:35 am » |
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Wow. That's thread drift I wasn't expecting.
*hangs head* Anyway, back to the WTF therapist concept. Sol might find himself in the role of smart, stubborn therapist to the team. My personal thought, though, is that - if the PTB actually go that route - the likely candidates are either Kay Baylor (who already demonstrated her skill with Danny) or the Mysterious Doctor Allison (about whom we know nothing save the name).
Mm. If Dr. Allison is someone they deal with professional in the context of Idlewood it might be better not. Though there is something to be said for keepin the people who know anything about this all small if they're trying to stay covert. Not sure about Baylor - I mean, if she had an established therapeutic relationship with Brady it would be one thing, but it sounded a little more short lived. |
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« Reply #191 on: June 12, 2009, 07:47:05 am » |
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Mm. If Dr. Allison is someone they deal with professional in the context of Idlewood it might be better not. Though there is something to be said for keepin the people who know anything about this all small if they're trying to stay covert. Not sure about Baylor - I mean, if she had an established therapeutic relationship with Brady it would be one thing, but it sounded a little more short lived.
If she had an established therapeutic relationship with Brady, I would expect her to have a conflict-of-interest in treating other members of the team, however, IANAT. |
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« Reply #192 on: June 12, 2009, 01:43:03 pm » |
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Duke has quite a head start though, given he's already gotten past most of the team's defences, and has a good handle on how each of them think/avoid unwanted topics. I think one of the others might be the official team therapist, should there be one, but they'll have to lean on Duke pretty hard most likely. Whether they know/realise this or not.
There have been a couple of Duke P.O.V. bits that make me think that Duke either doesn't have the ability, or doesn't think he has, to be much more than a den mother. Although he does make a good one. |
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« Reply #193 on: June 12, 2009, 02:12:17 pm » |
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There have been a couple of Duke P.O.V. bits that make me think that Duke either doesn't have the ability, or doesn't think he has, to be much more than a den mother. Although he does make a good one.
And with this crowd? (At least in their current states.) Poor overworked Duke... |
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« Reply #194 on: June 12, 2009, 02:39:14 pm » |
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There have been a couple of Duke P.O.V. bits that make me think that Duke either doesn't have the ability, or doesn't think he has, to be much more than a den mother. Although he does make a good one.
And with this crowd? (At least in their current states.) Poor overworked Duke... Duke's betabilities: the <i>mot juste</i> and Luck's favour. |
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