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Author Topic: 4x05 "aimforthe<3"  (Read 2422 times)
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2012, 10:14:39 pm »

Hafs is back in the field! Yay!!! :::doing happy dance:::

As expected, yet another stellar ep -- now we can all have another (insert favorite snackie here) to celebrate.  Grin  O Shadow Unit, long may you wail!

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And I'll have the keek.
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"I wanted to tell you both. I've met someone."

"Danny, that's good," his mother said, sounding strange and strained and cautious. "What's--"

"His name's Grayson. He works for the State Department."
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2012, 04:18:22 pm »

Hey, look: MIT Fuel Cell Uses Sugar to Power Neural Implants

So that's how they did it ;-)
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2012, 08:25:50 pm »

And given Hafidha's relentless sweet tooth, it's a readily available fuel.  Cool
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2012, 03:27:01 am »

OK, I just reread the episode, after letting it settle a bit.  Damn, but that's a powerful episode. I like it a lot on second read. (After first read I was too blown away with ECR to make any assessment of whether I liked it or not.)
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2012, 12:39:20 am »

Something appears to be wrong with the episode page. I went back to re-read it, and it stops partway thru Act III, as though the rest of the text has been overlaid with an opaque black frame or something. Refreshing the page didn't help, but I haven't been thru a reboot cycle yet.
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2012, 10:24:56 am »

Hmmm. Looks okay for me. Try emptying your browser cache? Or yeah, the mighty reboot.
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2012, 12:45:39 am »

I asked my partner, who is more knowledgeable about hardware than I am, to take a look. What follows is his research.
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In looking at the page source using the "view source" option, I see that the headers are very sparse or mostly nonexistent.  Most particularly, the first line that is present in the source code for this forum page, namely

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

is missing. This causes a Known Problem in some browsers; it puts them into "quirks mode", with variable and sometimes unpredictable results.  In this specific instance, it appears that the missing line causes the center background to fail to extend to the bottom of the page in both Firefox and Seamonkey, on three different systems here.  The exact break point for the transition from grey to black varies, but it happens with all three machines in Firefox, and in Seamonkey on the machine which has that installed - and Seamonkey is based on the same core code as Firefox.
 
The solution is almost certainly to add that missing doctype declaration at the top of the page.  Yes, I know, it's structurally Just A Freaking Comment, but apparently Firefox READS that comment and makes decisions based on what it sees.
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I should note that this was the first time I'd looked at an episode page since upgrading to Firefox v13.0.1, so the problem may be extant in other episode pages as well. He says that this is the longest single episode page you have, and apparently the only one long enough to trigger the problem.
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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2012, 11:26:36 am »

Additional data from the person who spotted the missing doctype line:  This does not appear related to the missing doctype declaration after all.  I built a copy of the page here with that added, and the problem remained present.  So, for the moment, the assumption is that a bug in Firefox 13.0.1 is at the root.  The problem has been seen on other long pages in the episodes, so it's not just that one, but many of the shorter episodes don't trigger the problem.  It probably didn't happen with earlier versions of Firefox (or you'd have heard about it before this), and might not be present in FF on Windows versions later than XP (since not everyone is a retrogrouch like us); all of the local systems are running that OS.  The pages display just fine in Safari, Chrome and Opera on the same system(s).  (Yes, I have multiple browsers available on the machine that we use for web updates - because weird stuff happens with just one browser at times, and it's wise to check as many as is practical.  And now it looks like that may be the case for the same browser under different OS versions - oh, joy.)
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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2012, 02:26:41 pm »

Oh, dear--you've documented this so well that I hate to have to tell you this, but... The people who turn stuff into code around here may not see your comments in an episode discussion thread. Could you contribute them to the "website" section (http://www.shadowunit.org/smf/index.php?board=23.0) as well?

And thank you so much for following up on this!
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2012, 03:26:56 pm »

Techies! We have techies!

Now it feels like home...

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"His name's Grayson. He works for the State Department."
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« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2012, 11:15:18 pm »

Yay, techies!

*bakes imaginary pies and offers them to techies*
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« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2012, 12:41:49 pm »

*raises e to the power of imaginary pies. Gets one less.*

Mmmm. Pie.
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« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2012, 03:08:01 pm »

**headdesk**
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« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2012, 01:40:53 am »

I keep being not able to write anything coherent and substantive about this episode. Probably it has something to do with having apparently left a whole case of pens in the bathroom.

That last paragraph.  Man, oh, man.

I would give almost anything not to know what that feels like. Poor Hafs.  She has my respect for standing up for herself in so many directions at once, too.

Nope, still not coherent.

Good ep.
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