krisiti
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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2012, 09:02:39 am » |
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I will say that I think the episode suffered a little for not showing us more inside Reyes' head. It made his decision moment come out of nowhere in a way that, to me, interrupted the flow of the story I thought was going on. There are times when that can be a good thing, but for something changing the dynamic of the series, it was a little jarring.
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Bradford
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2012, 12:00:52 pm » |
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Further comment to my post above. "Courage" is set only 6 months before "Latency", yet Hafs has gone from still thinking about the operation, to being allowed back into the FBI building - I find this really quick. I'd have expected Hafs to be going through a bunch of tests, and Reyes having to convince his superiors that Hafs would be safe to let out at this stage!
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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2012, 12:53:11 pm » |
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I was fine with Hafs being back on the job. She's got a chip in her head! Nothing can go wrong! It's TV! Plus, we get Hafs back. And more to the point, Chaz gets Hafs back.
As for Reyes leaving the team... It does seem a big jump from looking around for someone, anyone to deal with this kid to deciding to adopt. But she's not really a kid in the strictest sense, is she?
I'm wondering where Barry's mythology came from. Was his conversion accidental or engineered?
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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2012, 01:05:53 pm » |
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I pretty much took the clear Hafs-precautions that were in place as the Tip Of The Iceberg, in terms of restrictions and precautions, and let it go.
(Or, in other words, this worked for me.)
I was mildly stunned by Reyes, but in a good way. As a reader, I didn't need his interior, in this particular case. YMDV.
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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2012, 07:34:57 pm » |
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On reread, I was left wondering about Chaz' last words--"How did Petrewski figure out what he needed to do to make Autumn happen?" Is there something special to be done to breed gammas? Do we know how fertile most gammas are? Or betas.
I really like a story which can throw in gam jabbar with no explanation whatever.
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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2012, 04:24:42 am » |
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I was fine with Hafs being back on the job. She's got a chip in her head! Nothing can go wrong! It's TV!
It's all to set up the thing in Season Six where it looks like she's trying to get the chip removed so she can wreak havoc upon the world, but the last-minute twist is that she's getting her soul back. Or something. |
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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2012, 06:30:53 am » |
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*sporfle*
Here, Korvar, have an Internet.
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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2012, 08:55:27 am » |
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I was fine with Hafs being back on the job. She's got a chip in her head! Nothing can go wrong! It's TV!
It's all to set up the thing in Season Six where it looks like she's trying to get the chip removed so she can wreak havoc upon the world, but the last-minute twist is that she's getting her soul back. Or something. *laugh* This made my day. Korvar for the win!  |
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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2012, 11:21:22 am » |
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Reyes' choosing to retire to help raise Autumn was kind of a wham moment for me, too. But when you think about it, it makes some sense if you see it as part of his atonement for what happened with Chaz. Reyes doesn't want to eff up another beta kid any more than they already are. Plus, I imagine that the pressure from Celentano has been getting worse, and with Sol's retirement and Daphne's death, the kid is the last straw that breaks the camel's back and makes Reyes decide to pull the pin.
On a largely irrelevant side note, having the gamma be based in New Richmond, Wisconsin, made me wonder what it is about that town that attracts SFF writers looking for settings and/or characters, because S.M. Stirling's Montival series has a major character who's from there (a character who has exactly the same very uncommon name as a professor of geography at my university).
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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2012, 01:46:32 pm » |
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It's not that I feel Reyes' decision doesn't make sense, I guess. It's that I feel a bit robbed of story by only getting to see all this externally and by inference. I dunno. I'll have to do a close re-read of the last few episodes to see if that helps.
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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2012, 01:50:25 pm » |
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I was fine with Hafs being back on the job. She's got a chip in her head! Nothing can go wrong! It's TV! Plus, we get Hafs back. And more to the point, Chaz gets Hafs back.
As for Reyes leaving the team... It does seem a big jump from looking around for someone, anyone to deal with this kid to deciding to adopt. But she's not really a kid in the strictest sense, is she?
I'm wondering where Barry's mythology came from. Was his conversion accidental or engineered?
Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm happy to see Hafs back. I just find it difficult to believe that they could jump through all the red-tape hoops that a big government organisation like the FBI have in as little as 6 months. |
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InkRose
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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2012, 02:06:53 pm » |
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It's not that I feel Reyes' decision doesn't make sense, I guess. It's that I feel a bit robbed of story by only getting to see all this externally and by inference.
Reyes's retirement did make me do a double-take, too. Seemed almost a deus ex machina moment. But then I thought of it as a TV show (which it is) and the current treatment of the situation does make sense from that angle, at least for me. There wasn't enough airtime after they caught the bad guy, so bits had to be left on the editing room floor. I can accept that, for now. In any case, it's certainly something that has to be revisited, I'm guessing in an extra in the not too distant future, and/or a little in-episode scene somewhere. |
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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2012, 04:07:13 pm » |
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Reyes's retirement did make me do a double-take, too. Seemed almost a deus ex machina moment. But then I thought of it as a TV show (which it is) and the current treatment of the situation does make sense from that angle, at least for me. There wasn't enough airtime after they caught the bad guy, so bits had to be left on the editing room floor. I can accept that, for now.
In any case, it's certainly something that has to be revisited, I'm guessing in an extra in the not too distant future, and/or a little in-episode scene somewhere.
Not to mention maybe the actor asked to have his role reduced to recurring status or the network can't afford him as a series regular anymore... |
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krisiti
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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2012, 11:16:46 am » |
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Now that I've had a chance to digest, I'm thinking that Reyes' decision to retire may not be as sudden as it seems. The unit is clearly under severe pressure of some sort from above. Reyes enlisted Chaz as a conspirator back in Season three; we haven't seen anything yet of what that means, but I'm sure it will mean something. I don't believe he's giving up on hunting the Anomaly after all this time - but he might be thinking that he could do a better job of it outside the restrictions and scrutiny of the FBI. (Not that they'd stop scrutinizing him...) Maybe he's been looking for a suitable moment to slip the leash.
Which would be why we weren't allowed to see inside his head.
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« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2012, 11:42:13 am » |
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On a largely irrelevant side note, having the gamma be based in New Richmond, Wisconsin, made me wonder what it is about that town that attracts SFF writers looking for settings and/or characters, because S.M. Stirling's Montival series has a major character who's from there (a character who has exactly the same very uncommon name as a professor of geography at my university).
Ehe. In this case... My boyfriend lives there. So when I needed a rural community close to Minneapolis... I went for one I could describe. *looks innocent* |
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