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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2011, 04:51:02 am »

That extra made me cry.

It's too early in the morning to be weeping into my cereal, dammit!

(Good stuff.)
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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2011, 10:07:35 am »

This is where I wanna get on a soapbox and urge people to sign their organ donor cards, or have it indicated on their driver's licenses, or wherever is appropriate for where you live. Just sayin'.

(posting here as well as on Schedule thread)

Have potential donors to speak to their family members and talk to the family members until the family is clear that they wish to be donors, and okay with it, because after the donor is deceased, signed donor card or no, the family must be willing to sign off on the donation or it won't happen.

Sometimes circumstances dictate no donation.  My daughter wanted to be an organ donor.  She died of a massive viral/bacterial infection.  When you add in the immune suppression that goes with transplant, you don't want anything that might compromise the fragile alliance between new organ and new host.  She had to settle for something else.  Her surgeon called it "an incredible gift" that we allowed an autopsy, because of the knowledge gained.  It may be only one data point, but it's one data point they would have gotten nowhere else.  I know she would be pleased.
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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2011, 11:16:59 am »

Hmm. Morbid curiosity, or tracking potential vectors for the Anomaly?
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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2011, 11:20:51 am »

This is one of the reasons I'm setting it up so that power of attourney and such rests with my sister, and that my mother is specifically excluded. I don't know if that will be enough, but my mother has made it clear she will not respect my wishes on this (or pretty much anything else) and... argh.

She is apparently afraid that anyone who receives transplants from me will then get glimpses of memories from my life, and might even be infected with my personality. (Which not only says a lot about what kind of nut my mom is, but also what she thinks of me. Oh, did I mention she's running for school board?)
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2011, 12:18:26 pm »

Hmm. Morbid curiosity, or tracking potential vectors for the Anomaly?
The Anomaly requires a genetic vulnerability, which Daphne probably didn't have and which even if she did, you don't acquire the donor's genetic traits when you receive an organ.

I'd bet on some percent morbid curiosity and some percent wanting to know, you know? Just to know that she is still in some way out there saving lives, making the world a better place. And wanting to know that the pieces of the person you loved went to people Chaz would consider worthy recipients, i.e., not some rich asshole who's on his third liver because he's got money coming out of his ears and he just doesn't feel like quitting the sauce or whatever.

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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2011, 12:42:44 pm »

The Anomaly requires a genetic vulnerability, which Daphne probably didn't have and which even if she did, you don't acquire the donor's genetic traits when you receive an organ.

I believe the anomaly apparently involves no genetic vulnerability, though exposure to the anomaly at a very young age seems to cause a mutation which grants resistance.
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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2011, 03:30:35 pm »

This is where I wanna get on a soapbox and urge people to sign their organ donor cards, or have it indicated on their driver's licenses, or wherever is appropriate for where you live. Just sayin'.

(posting here as well as on Schedule thread)

Have potential donors to speak to their family members and talk to the family members until the family is clear that they wish to be donors, and okay with it, because after the donor is deceased, signed donor card or no, the family must be willing to sign off on the donation or it won't happen.

In Finland we have apparently so few donors that law and regulations were changed a few years back so that unless the decedent was known in life to object to being a donor (or had a will or testament to that effect, obviously), the doctors are allowed to harvest what can be matched to people on the waiting list. I have no doubt whatsoever that the families of the deceased get all due consideration, though.
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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2011, 08:13:25 pm »

Hmm. Morbid curiosity, or tracking potential vectors for the Anomaly?
The Anomaly requires a genetic vulnerability, which Daphne probably didn't have and which even if she did, you don't acquire the donor's genetic traits when you receive an organ.

There isn't any genetic factor involved in the Anomaly... or, at least, Our Heroes haven't found one. And given the pattern-recognition machine that Chaz is keeping behind his eyeballs, I think they would have if there were one. There is a genetic factor involved in beta-hood... however meaningful that term really may be.

TTBOMK, transmission vectors for the Anomaly are still unknown. Some evidence points towards being present at the death of a gamma being involved, which is why Reyes and Chaz are concerned about the team being at risk. Daphne was exposed that way more than once, including at the last. You don't acquire your organ donor's genetic traits, but you can acquire their infections, and if we're using a disease model for the Anomaly, and Daphne was infected at Singh's death - or any one of the other gammas she's been present for the death of, starting with the unnamed one she killed in her ambulance years before Breathe - then all those bits of her that are being distributed across the country to people in need may potentially be carrying the Anomaly with them.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2011, 10:23:50 am »

You don't acquire your organ donor's genetic traits

Genetics no (barring someone transplanting an ovary or testicle), epigenetics might be an issue. Epigenetics is basically the switching on or off of particular genes by methods such as methylisation and does specifically occur during your lifetime rather than at fertilisation, leading to oddities like childhood obesity being linked to grandparental nutrition (yes, Lamarck was sort of right). There has to be a mechanism that does that methylisation (or whatever), Tylik probably knows more than me about our state of knowledge WRT that, but if you introduce an organ with that mechanism active into a body, then there may well be the potential for it to spread beyond the donor organ. And we just don't know enough about how the Anomaly works at the biochemical level to know whether there might be a risk.
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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2011, 10:31:59 pm »

And therefore Chaz will be watching.

It's a weird kind of Last Watch, that.
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« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2011, 10:38:17 pm »

And therefore Chaz will be watching.

It's a weird kind of Last Watch, that.

Therefore Chaz will be justifying the watching he'd be doing anyway.

Or such is my belief.
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« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2011, 07:43:25 pm »

And therefore Chaz will be watching.

It's a weird kind of Last Watch, that.

Therefore Chaz will be justifying the watching he'd be doing anyway.

These, both!
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