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Episodes / DVD Extras and Easter Eggs / Re: Bored with the old new content topic...
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on: November 22, 2010, 09:18:41 am
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Okay, that was seriously, seriously cute. (I almost didn't read it because I wasn't sure I was up to something painful right now, but this was perfect.) Special love for the belly dancing Falkner girls, and Lau beating Chaz at badminton despite the height difference. Of more immediate personal concern, Coffeeem's intro over on LJ called this the 3rd WTF BBQ, and the only one I can remember is the first. Looking at the reading order page isn't helping, someone put me out of my misery with a pointer, please!  The middle one was only mentioned in LJs - here's the first post that comes to mind. |
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Episodes / DVD Extras and Easter Eggs / Re: Season three extras!
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on: November 03, 2010, 12:25:08 pm
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Or maybe she's just always wondered why she is the way she is, so different from other people, and is fascinated by the idea that there may be other people like her, and she could actually meet them and talk to them?
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General Category / Food, the most important topic / Re: Shoggoths
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on: October 26, 2010, 10:20:32 am
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Glinda, do you have the link for that sweet potato curry recipe? I just read your comment and my belly went "OMG I want that NAOW" so I think it's up for dinner tonight, if I track down the recipe!
I'm not Glinda, but I suspect it's this one. I've made a dozen variations of it, all yummy. |
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Fanfiction / Fan Art / Re: Doctor Madeline Frost
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on: October 09, 2010, 03:44:23 pm
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BTW, I adore the image - very much how I'd pictured her as well.
Though the implication that she'd decided that the Gun was too dangerous to live is reading a lot into that all, I think.
Both the main text and the Frost-based Extra support that reading, I think. (Well, obviously I think that...) The thing is, though, that the very text you quoted could equally well support a very different scenario. Back to the Text! "If they brought your father back," Frost said, her face relaxed and curious, an expression Lau had never seen her wear before, "do you think he would be proud of what you've done?"
"The gun--" Melinda said. Her breath came quick and fast, her face paling.
"The gun didn't make you do anything," Frost said. "You killed all those people, Melinda. You did it all yourself. Do you think your daddy would be proud?"
"No," Melinda said. Firmly, with resolve, as if coming to a realization. Brady leaned forward against the pressure of the M9 trained on his eye. The floor creaked with the shift of his balance, and Melinda glanced at him. Lau felt the motion of her own finger on the trigger, arrested it just in time. Because Melinda was lowering her father's pistol, dragging it down Brady's body and off to the side.
"No," she said. "He wouldn't be proud."
With her peripheral vision, Lau caught the flash of silver metal and blue plastic as Frost slipped the surgical scalpel she'd been holding concealed in her right hand back into her beltcase. Brady was already lunging for Melinda as she turned the gun around. We don't have a lot of Frost action-scenes to draw on for comparison, here. In fact, this is the only one, and one of two Frost-in-the-field scenes I remember. But Melinda's delayed-successful suicide seems a result entirely consistent with Frost's words. I read this as an example of Frost knowing she is not good for other living things, and making use of that. So. Attempted suicide, resulting in life-threatening injury. This part could easily be read as "Frost tries to talk Melissa into putting the Gun down," no ulterior motives required. She was willing to use the scalpel (to defend herself/put the killer down) if she had to, but when there was no need, she put it away. Her words had a different effect than she'd intended, because Frost doesn't quite see the world like others do. Now the surgery. Frost lifted her scalpel in her right hand, felt along the top of Melinda's narrow chest, where the rib bones arched above her childish breasts in their training bra, and placed the point of the blade immediately below Melinda's collarbone. Now Melinda whimpered, as a fresh trickle welled from the scalpel tip, but Lau's strength was sufficient for what little struggle she made.
With expressionless precision, Frost moved the knife several careful centimeters. Blood followed.
Frost slid the pen in below the blade. Blood and escaping air sprayed across Frost's hands, and Frost's and Lau's faces. Only Lau flinched.
Melinda's breaths seemed to come easier. Frost removed the scalpel then, and laid it well aside. When he saw she didn't mean to move again soon, Brady said, "Now what?"
"Now we wait for the ambulance." Her eyes flickered up behind the red spatter across her glasses. "If it makes you feel better, you could go boil water." (This is why I hate quoting. I never want to cut off any of the scene.) It reads to me like the move was deliberate, and the results expected by Frost. Or, you know, she did the best she could to save Melissa's life, and knew that her best might not be good enough, but there was nobody else on the scene who could do better, so... (And she doesn't show any emotional reaction, because, well, she's Frost.) Injuries to the decedent were insufficient to cause instantaneous death. However, they were exacerbated by a bleed into the pleural cavity caused when this physician's attempt to relieve pressure on the cardiopulmonary system lacerated the decedent's subclavian artery. This bleed is the immediate cause of death.
It is probable that a competent medical intervention could have saved the victim's life.
--Madeline Frost, M.D. And she knows/believes that if she'd spent more time operating on living, breathing people, she could perhaps have saved Melissa, but she chose a different path, and because of it a young girl is dead. (Which is oversimplification, of course, but consistent with what she herself writes.) She said, "You did everything you could have, Madeline. You did more than you had to."
Frost's eyebrows rose. She studied Lau with an interested frown, as if considering the fatal injury. And then she nodded, shortly, and answered, "Yes. I did." She recognizes that Lau is trying to comfort her, and doesn't quite understand the point of it because what Nikki says doesn't change the outcome, but she can agree that the statement is correct. Again, she is being Frost. The defense rests.
Re-looking at my thoughts on the matter, I stand by the "Frost killed her on purpose" part of my interpretation. I don't see enough evidence for the "too dangerous" part as more probable than other options, such as "relieving suffering". I'd be willing to argue that, but not terribly betrayed if I turned out to be on the wrong side of the question.
I think I was conflating Frost's analysis of Melinda's gammability (idea of a bullet, point and click, need line of sight) with some of the subsequent board discussion over what other things were possible with the power, given a modicum of imagination. Even the possibility of substituting a gun-shape for a gun (or a Gun) makes dealing with it a lot trickier. (Me, I'm imagining the typical forefinger-and-thumb "bang bang" gesture. Melinda's conceptualization of the Gun as separate from her may not let that work, though.)
So. I believe Frost killed Melinda Grossman on purpose. I have some plausible theories as to why, but none feels certain to me.
I consider your interpretation to be a very real possibility, but I'm far from certain that it's what happened - because I feel that everything could just as easily be read in a different manner, depending on where your starting point is. Which is, of course, why TPTB wrote it that way. |
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General Category / General Discussion / Re: SF @ NK
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on: October 09, 2010, 07:15:17 am
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If there's room for multiple Jeffs on these boards - and there most definitely is - surely there's room for multiple Daves in the world?
Or as we say in Swedish, "If there's heart-room, there's butt-room." (Okay, that sounds weird in translation.)
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Fanfiction / Fan Art / Re: Doctor Madeline Frost
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on: October 09, 2010, 07:06:35 am
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I like that, although I always imagined her plumper.
Word. Beta!Frost, holy god we're all in trouble. No way would Frost be a beta. Gamma, baby, gamma. Also, that's pretty much exactly the way I picture her. (Pretty much and exactly? Wow, I'm not good with words today.) And yes, the background is black in the thumbnail, while the pic doesn't seem to have a background - therefore, white. |
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Episodes / Episodes, Season 3 / Re: 3x05, "The Closet Monster"
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on: October 09, 2010, 03:45:47 am
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It could also be that Daphne wants a child, but isn't willing to quit her job and doesn't want to be away from the baby as much as her job would require her to. (It's hard enough to know that T is sitting at home dreading The Phonecall, but add a baby to that equation....) Given her own emotionally distant father, anything remotely resembling the whole absentee parent thing could be very difficult for her. Oh, and her job is risky, and she doesn't want to think of her own child losing a mother like she did.
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Fanfiction / Fanfiction / Re: So.
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on: October 07, 2010, 04:23:58 am
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Well, there's a passage in the latest Easter Egg that suggests - to me, at least -that she has at one point been a victim of something. You check the shadows before you get out, alone, and go up the walk in the light autumn rain, alone, and unlock the door--alone, and aware of your situation, of the potential threats, of the night.
You are not a victim. You know how to fight. You carry a gun. You keep one hand free as you step inside and shut the door and key the security code. Also, that ficlet was excellent. |
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Episodes / Episodes, Season 3 / Re: 3x05, "The Closet Monster"
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on: October 06, 2010, 09:38:29 am
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Pff. Or he called the front desk and identified himself as a State Department official, and can they please let him know when Agent Brady's unit returns? Thanks. Oh, what's it about? Um, what is your security clearance level? Oh. Well, sorry, I can't discuss it with you. Let me know when they're back though, right? Thanks. That would get you in serious trouble very, very quickly, and probably lose you your security clearance, too. No one who's forced to violate what they understand of security protocol by someone going over their head is going to fail to get their own back as forcefully as they can. It's not something anyone I know in government service would consider except in the most dire circumstances. Not even if they're characters in a TV show? |
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Episodes / Episodes, Season 3 / Re: 3x05, "The Closet Monster"
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on: October 06, 2010, 05:40:15 am
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I would love to see a story with the team at the other end of the hall. Just one.
BACKDOOR PILOT! I second this, with applause for the concept in the SU universe.  Things seem to have been leading up to this, what with the frequent use of Pauley and the subtle introductions of Blaze and Lisa, and, of course, "Orientation Day"... I am perfectly satisfied with the show we've got! If, by "perfectly satisfied," one may mean rapt, challenged, terrified, friends with fictional characters, and addicted to ECR.
**protect the power of the ptb! Give a hoot- don't dilute! Or overwhelm. Or whatever. :]
Clearly, the backdoor pilot needs to take place two or three episodes from the Grand Finale, so that when *SPOILER!!11!* the entire WTF gets eaten by a grue in the last episode *END SPOILER* there's a new team ready to take over. After all, our PTB need something to do when SU comes to an end. I'm sure nobody wants them to sit around wasting away with boredom - because we all know none of them have anything to do outside of creating SU for us. Danny Brady was not in the habit of coming into the office to hide.
Chaz did, and Todd occasionally. Just what exactly is Sol hiding from? My guess would be ennui, Sol projects a facade of relaxed guru-dom, but he's been in the thick of wherever the action is ever since Kent State. We know he has a life outside the office, and a maenad, but is that enough to fulfill him? Is it boredom that drives him into the office, hoping for that moment when Nikki pokes her head into his office to say 'Case' or El Jefe says 'Briefing Room'. Really? I'd have a much longer list. Insomnia. Thinking about the kind of things you think about late at night when you can't sleep. Getting old. Dying. Dying without knowing the answers. Dead people. Dead people on the other end of his, Sol's, gun. Whatever country he wasn't in in Southeast Asia. Coulda woulda shoulda. Etc. Coming in at 5am gives him something useful and occupying to do, rather than think about things he can't help and can't help thinking about. *I bet Gray and Duke would get along fabulously. Which from Brady's POV might be a bad thing. This. I'd add that we also know he wonders why he's not in love with the maenad. Thoughts like that can drive someone from a warm cozy bed into work, I imagine. Which makes me wonder where he goes to "hide" after retirement... For a ride on the bike? I have more to say about the episode, but I need to re-read it first to get it all straight in my head, and I just don't have time right now. Damn that Real Life for interdering with my SU reading time! In a couple days, maybe I can manage something coherent... |
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Episodes / DVD Extras and Easter Eggs / Re: Season three extras!
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on: September 29, 2010, 09:48:16 am
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OR... he might be the One of Our Own Dies Because We Screwed Up. The cliffhanger finale whodied. With a twist, knowing TPTB.
(Wait, if we no longer have Seasons, will there still be finale cliffhangers?)
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Characters / Overheard on livejournal (and/or Twitter)-- / Re: SU in SEA
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on: September 16, 2010, 05:39:39 am
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Check. I'll get some shots tomorrow.
I'm not sure one can be inoculated against Harpy and Platypus. I'm not sure that any of us would want to be inoculated against Harpy and Platypus. Against Platypus venom, perhaps. I hear it can be very painful. (AFAIK, none of the various mythical versions of harpies are venomous.) |
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