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16  Episodes / DVD Extras and Easter Eggs / Re: Bored with the old new content topic... on: January 02, 2011, 10:10:07 pm
Best big brother ever.
17  Characters / Overheard on livejournal (and/or Twitter)-- / Re: Oh, that's a shame- I liked her so much on: December 20, 2010, 06:30:15 pm
Look, does the WTF really need to be in DC?  They're always traveling anyway.  Why not just move the J. Edgar Hoover building and Tricia's university?
18  Episodes / DVD Extras and Easter Eggs / Re: Season three extras! on: November 02, 2010, 07:38:49 pm
Oh, people stop trying all the time. Sometimes what happens then is not very nice, but still interesting to read about. I just don't want that to be Renee.

Another interesting question is what form the trying might take. I mean, she hasn't been able to get through to Nikki, quite, but she knows Nikki has friends like her. Might she follow Nikki... to work?

*grin* I mean, as far as we know, at the current time the unit has already acquired, unbeknown to them, their very own invisable anomaloid. Realistically (er, as much as that applies) I can't see that lasting long well - they're all profilers, they're going to notice that someone else has been there. Especially if that someone else really wants to be noticed.

Point to consider - As a jammer, she might start taking food from the fridge. How long will that last before people start commenting either on the disappearance of food? Even if it's not the WTF themselves, the Significant Others will start to wonder why their calorific intake starts spiking. You know, Trish says, "What happened to that packet of sandwiches you took to work today, sweetie?" and Daphne goes, "I can't remember." Rinse and repeat for a week, multiplied by the other members of the team (Brady, maybe, Falkner definitely, (not to mention intra-team comments)) and they'll Houdini-clause a case in the bullpen itself.

Or, depending on her manifestation, the invisibility could extend to the food--they'd forget they ever bought it in the first place.
19  Episodes / Episodes, Season 3 / Re: 3x05, "The Closet Monster" on: October 04, 2010, 05:21:19 pm
Man, I need to stop reading in class.  Now my physics professor must think that electromagnetism makes me cry.
20  Episodes / DVD Extras and Easter Eggs / Re: Season three extras! on: September 06, 2010, 10:33:33 pm
Betty Johnson, James Cauldwell, Melinda Grossman, Morgan Creirwy, Felicity Tabor, Cora Marie Pace and Hafidha Gates all had the death of family members as their crack.

Hafidha? As best I recall, we've yet to have any canonical statement of what her initial crack was. Act IV of "Sugar" included a scene where she remembered her first anomalous symptoms:
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Blood tests, glucose. Diabetes. That was one of the first things they had tested Hafidha for, back when they'd ascertained it wasn't the Hodgkin's coming back for round two. Back when they figured out that yes, she was irrevocably, totally, completely cancer-free...and then the mystery symptoms started. She could still go down the list: mononucleosis, sickle cell, protein metabolization issues, and diabetes. They'd drawn probably half her blood. None of it came back positive. She'd sat in the corner of her bathroom with the door locked and cried and cried. Big bad Secret Service lady.

At that point, she's still in the Secret Service, so it's way after she lost her biological parents - and, IIRC, it's before her then-fiance dumped her.

I think dwg was probably referring to Hafidha's second crack, Erik's death.  It's been pretty strongly implied (which means nothing, of course) that the cancer was her initial crack.

I think you mean second and third, here.

So far, nobody knows what the first crack might be. But people don't generally convert after those.

So many cracks!  Who can keep track?
21  Episodes / DVD Extras and Easter Eggs / Re: Season three extras! on: September 06, 2010, 07:37:07 pm
Betty Johnson, James Cauldwell, Melinda Grossman, Morgan Creirwy, Felicity Tabor, Cora Marie Pace and Hafidha Gates all had the death of family members as their crack.

Hafidha? As best I recall, we've yet to have any canonical statement of what her initial crack was. Act IV of "Sugar" included a scene where she remembered her first anomalous symptoms:
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Blood tests, glucose. Diabetes. That was one of the first things they had tested Hafidha for, back when they'd ascertained it wasn't the Hodgkin's coming back for round two. Back when they figured out that yes, she was irrevocably, totally, completely cancer-free...and then the mystery symptoms started. She could still go down the list: mononucleosis, sickle cell, protein metabolization issues, and diabetes. They'd drawn probably half her blood. None of it came back positive. She'd sat in the corner of her bathroom with the door locked and cried and cried. Big bad Secret Service lady.

At that point, she's still in the Secret Service, so it's way after she lost her biological parents - and, IIRC, it's before her then-fiance dumped her.

I think dwg was probably referring to Hafidha's second crack, Erik's death.  It's been pretty strongly implied (which means nothing, of course) that the cancer was her initial crack.
22  General Category / Website / Re: tyop on: August 02, 2010, 08:40:05 pm
And then there's this:
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The pale meaty scars were still faintly visible, disapearing into his hair and creasing his full lips.

That should be "disappearing."
23  Episodes / Episodes, Season 3 / Re: 3x04, "Spell 81a" on: August 02, 2010, 02:22:56 am
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Have any of the others, Beta or Gamma, refer to the anomaly as a separate entity, other than Hafidha? Hafidha knows as much as the team knew about the anomaly when she went Gamma. That gives her the insight to separate herself from it to an extent. And now Reyes used the term Bug as well. Using Hafidha's phrase, sure, but he tends to be careful in how he thinks of the anomaly. And Henry had his sister's voice. Which could totally fit with his mythology along with his background, but also could, at least in some way, be the voice of the anomaly as well.


Well, Hope's "they" was never identified - but then it looks like she may have been a beta, not gamma. The Relative had his angel obsession, and may well have "heard the word of God" - I don't remember specifically. Susannah and Henry Lee both had hunger almost anthropomorphized. Melinda Grossman heard the gun speak to her.

Yeah.  Two of the three the gamma's whose heads we've been inside for a significant period--so I'm not counting Cora Marie Pace--have had literal voices in their heads, telling them to harm.

... I wonder if it's like a virus that can be "carried" by someone who doesn't catch sick, but passes it on to someone else? Ben, Gray, T.... But then something else would have to provide the crack.

Well, there's no shortage of those.

Hm.  I guess the "Chaz got his betahood through his mother's trauma" bit wasn't too far off.  That's exciting.

ETA:  I love information-heavy episodes.  I can't wait to meet Renee.
24  Characters / Hafidha Gates / Re: Hafidha's Crack on: July 30, 2010, 10:39:19 am
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Because if so it isn't a difference between Gammas and Betas-it is difference between people.

Which is a totally valid theory, but not in any way the only valid theory.  I don't think it's true, because, well, I'm not sure to what degree I buy into the beta/gamma breakdown, and also because it seems like we've seen plenty of gammas who had no wish whatsoever to hurt people, but were completely aware that they were doing so (I'm thinking here of Dave Schumacher in particular).  In which case, I want to know what it is about the Anomaly that makes them do it.

Anyway, I've already said what I think about what caused Hafidha's first conversion--she may have had a fiance and a job she loved, but she also had cancer, and we've seen far less traumatic cracks than that.
25  Characters / Hafidha Gates / Re: Hafidha's Crack on: July 29, 2010, 10:09:49 pm
ETA: Although there is an interesting line, somewhere in this conversation, about breakthrough at a time of great need.  There are only a couple of gammas who we know how they discovered their abilities (Melinda Grossman, a pretty good idea for Justin Saito, etc.) and none of their breakthroughs had that quality, that I can think of.  But it's pretty much the defining trait of Hafs and Chaz's breakthroughs.  In as much as we're still using "gamma" and "beta" as categories, it's interesting to think that there might be a difference between the way the two kinds of anomaloid gain their second-stage powers.  It sort of speaks to something about the way powers develop vs. the descent of the "wants to hurt people" part of the anomaly; like, they're connected, but on separate tracks.  (Think, for instance, of Melinda Grossman, who was hearing the gun talk to her long before she could shoot people with it.)  There's some connecting thought or implication that I'm missing here.  I've sort of been idly turning this thing over in my head for a while.

I'm going to add Susan Greenberg to the list of "converted at a time of great need." Chaz notes somewhere that the Anomaly makes it easier for the host to keep him/herself alive, mainly by providing strength, physical toughness, etc. In Susan's case almost the entire manifestation is focused on stopping her from dying of anorexia.

Ooh, that's a good point.  (And interesting, too, since Susannah's one of those people who could screw with our categories.)
26  Characters / Hafidha Gates / Re: Hafidha's Crack on: July 29, 2010, 04:35:05 pm
I cannot vouch for the exact sequence, but:

She had a run in with Hodgkin's, and escaped.
Her finace dumped her.
She developed Gates Syndrome.

It's the order of the first two that I'm not certain of (I believe it was mentioned early on, but I'm feeling too lazy to track down the reference) but I suspect it's the order above, as having the major trigger being her fiance dumping her has a horrible resonance with Eric's death. (The funeral scene in one of the season two episodes refers to much of this.)

I'm pretty sure, at the very least, her fiance dumped her after she converted, given the following quote from "Knock on Coffins":

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Most of the time, she had a pretty good line of patter in convincing herself that her new job and her new gifts made up for what they'd cost her: a job she'd loved, a normal life expectancy, reasonable grocery bills, and a guy who couldn't handle it when his lover started seeing and doing things other people didn't.

I tend to believe that the cancer was or was part of the crack, though I freely admit that I do so partially because it fits with my pet theory (which involves several long jumps to conclusions).  The other part is because we haven't been given any good alternatives.

ETA: Although there is an interesting line, somewhere in this conversation, about breakthrough at a time of great need.  There are only a couple of gammas who we know how they discovered their abilities (Melinda Grossman, a pretty good idea for Justin Saito, etc.) and none of their breakthroughs had that quality, that I can think of.  But it's pretty much the defining trait of Hafs and Chaz's breakthroughs.  In as much as we're still using "gamma" and "beta" as categories, it's interesting to think that there might be a difference between the way the two kinds of anomaloid gain their second-stage powers.  It sort of speaks to something about the way powers develop vs. the descent of the "wants to hurt people" part of the anomaly; like, they're connected, but on separate tracks.  (Think, for instance, of Melinda Grossman, who was hearing the gun talk to her long before she could shoot people with it.)  There's some connecting thought or implication that I'm missing here.  I've sort of been idly turning this thing over in my head for a while.
27  Shadow Unit / World / Re: SU and CM on: July 23, 2010, 03:20:04 am
And she'll disagree, hence trying to match him lie for lie- to show him he has nothing to teach her:)

They're really from different schools of lying--they can learn from each other.
28  Shadow Unit / World / Re: SU and CM on: July 22, 2010, 01:12:53 pm
I don't know Rossi, but Tod and JJ...She would probably  try to match him lie for lie(and fail...youth and vigor vs. old age and cunning thing:)

Are you kidding?  They'd be at it for days.
29  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Second Favorite Online Fiction on: June 26, 2010, 07:29:34 am
Just dropping in to second Gunnerkrigg Court (mentioned last page).  My only qualm with it is that I tend to forget what's happened as it moves along, and given the arcing, tied-in nature of the story, that can be problematic.  Other than that, it's beautiful art, on its best days it's beautiful storytelling, and it's often funny in an understated sort of way.

Because I'm a geek, I'll also mention Arthur, King of Time and Space, which is a more-or-less real-time retelling of the Arthurian cycle in several time periods (the main ones being medieval, present-day, and IN SPACE!, but there are also secondary Western, M*A*S*H, movie parody, and super hero arcs, for example).  The medieval arc more or less follows Malory, and large liberties are taken with the other arcs, though the space arc is the next closest.  It follows a gag-a-day format for the most part, while still having a definite arc of plot and characters enforced by the story its telling.  I've been looking all over the place for somewhere to recommend it, because, well, it just plays better if you're into Arthuriana, and this definitely seems like a good place to mention its name.

Oh, yeah.  If you're going to try AKOTAS, make sure you have a good stomach for puns.
30  Episodes / Episodes, Season 3 / Re: 3x03, "Always Crashing In The Same Car" on: June 10, 2010, 10:56:45 am
" How would SU-the-show film this episode, anyway?  I mean, yes, TV shows do the serial-killer-perspective thing, but also framing it as letters? "

(please forgive my inability to truly quote on the not-an-aop...)
Scene opens w/ Reyes reading from a file, moves to scenes being described with voice-over narration (suggestions for our Betty, anyone?). It would be especially cool if it was all that way, like filmed through a filter, with her narration, all the way through to coming back to Danny being the one reading the file...   

I'd frame it with an interview (conducted by a woman, of course -- though I suppose you could have Brady watching through two-way glass or whathaveyou, to get that idea across).
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